Sooo…a straight woman saying “I don’t think I could be intimately involved with an FTM because I’m not sexually attracted to female genatalia” is transphobic?

fandomsandfeminism:

p-ardin-me:

theroguefeminist:

ineffable-hufflepuff:

Anyone assuming they know what all trans men’s bodies look like inherently is transphobic. 

And you know, anon, rather than trying to find some stranger on the internet to validate your views for you, you could just admit that you find transness repulsive and deal with the implications of that honestly yourself. 

LOL as if there aren’t trans men who have had bottom surgery or are intersex. As if all trans men have a certain kind of genitalia. As if “female genitalia” isn’t an inherently cissexist term

Exactly. This is precisely what’s so gross with the whole “genital preference” thing that keeps coming up around cis people discussing dating/having sex with trans people. (I mean, it’s a huge red flag if you’re discussing whether or not you’d date an entire group of people cause that screams, in this case, transphobia.) It assumes what trans people’s bodies are. Sure, when it comes down to an individual and you have both talked about being intimate and they have genitals you aren’t comfortable sleeping with, don’t sleep with them. Maybe consider why you are so bothered by those genitals, but whatever. Just don’t date them. Good riddance for that trans person. It’s when cis people assume to know what all trans people’s bodies are like that it’s a huge no and is transphobic. That’s exactly what we’re saying is the problem in that whole “discourse.”

This whole thing has been really pissing me off recently, so rant it is. Cis people who harp on this whole thing of “well, I just can’t be attracted to x genitals so I can’t/won’t date any trans person” are soooo defensive of it too. And personally, I’m more frustrated when LGB+ folks go on about it than cishet ones, because they’re supposed to be in the same community as us. (We all know how tenuous and situational that can be tho. Yes, shade.) I’ve seen some gay people try to claim that asking them to consider not assuming trans people’s genitals and also consider why they’re so set on specific genitals, basically to be self-reflective on whether it’s transphobia and cissexism taught to them by society (and if it turns out it is just how it is for them, then date trans people with those who are either post-bottom surgery or intersex in that way, so that doesn’t rule out all trans people, damn), that it’s homophobic and equivalent to conversion therapy. No. Just no. The biggest thing is not to assume what all trans people’s bodies are like. If you’re just stuck in your transphobia and rule out ever personally dating a trans person, you can SHUT UP ABOUT IT. Why are some cis people so insistent on letting everyone know that they woulnd’t date a trans person? We are not clamoring to date or have sex with you. And you can just say no if you’re in a situation where it comes up. Like damn. Enough. Listen to trans people about what’s transphobic and cissexist and then check yourself.

Yesssss